Comments on: End Of An Era? http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:21:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kostas http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-68188 kostas Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:44:53 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-68188 ok i agree with all of them but my opinion is that some players from abroad would be more siutable for playing soccer than the ones in the USA. You have to scout or even though to give some scolarships for those who want get trained and play absolute perfect soccer!!! ok i agree with all of them but my opinion is that some players from abroad would be more siutable for playing soccer than the ones in the USA. You have to scout or even though to give some scolarships for those who want get trained and play absolute perfect soccer!!!

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]]> By: ETucker http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5224 ETucker Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:37:43 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5224 Luis- I agree 100% that playing against older players helps the younger players' development. However, let's wait and see if Adu is as good at 20 as Donovan was. If his World Cup in 2010 is not as good as Donovan's in 2002, then that would make a strong case that some talent can emerge in the US system. I feel like everyone is trying to analyze the US system and say its either too organized or too disorganized. Too be honest, I feel like Brazil has hte best players not becase poor kids play everyday with their older brothers, but becase a) Brazil has a huge population and b) Soccer is pretty much the only sport. that being said, the pay to play system in the states sucks, excludes boatloads of Latino talent, and a few decades down the line should give way to a club system that scouts young players and pits them against older ones. I think the US needs a reality check: after 2002, no one was criticizin the US soccer structre and it has not changed considerably since then. The only difference is that in 2006 we had a REALLY tough group. Let's not forget that Arentina didnt get out of 2002 becase it was in a tough group. Should they have changed anything? Luis-

I agree 100% that playing against older players helps the younger players’ development.

However, let’s wait and see if Adu is as good at 20 as Donovan was. If his World Cup in 2010 is not as good as Donovan’s in 2002, then that would make a strong case that some talent can emerge in the US system.

I feel like everyone is trying to analyze the US system and say its either too organized or too disorganized.

Too be honest, I feel like Brazil has hte best players not becase poor kids play everyday with their older brothers, but becase a) Brazil has a huge population and b) Soccer is pretty much the only sport.

that being said, the pay to play system in the states sucks, excludes boatloads of Latino talent, and a few decades down the line should give way to a club system that scouts young players and pits them against older ones.

I think the US needs a reality check: after 2002, no one was criticizin the US soccer structre and it has not changed considerably since then. The only difference is that in 2006 we had a REALLY tough group.

Let’s not forget that Arentina didnt get out of 2002 becase it was in a tough group. Should they have changed anything?

]]> By: Luis http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5220 Luis Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:28:01 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5220 The critical variable in a players development is the age when he starts to play. He started when he was 4 or 5 and developed his game for 5 years playing among older, stronger, better players, there is no way you can honestly tell me an American kid can develop into a phenom much like the way Adu has. True, he has been developing his game in the US over the past 7 years, only after playing in Ghana for 5. Also, in the US, he played against players his own age. Another thing, watching Adu play soccer against kids his own age, is like watching LeBron James play for his varsity high school team. No one stood a chance. What happened in the olympics though? Nothing. You cannot truly say that Adu will have an impact on the future of US soccer until it comes. The critical variable in a players development is the age when he starts to play. He started when he was 4 or 5 and developed his game for 5 years playing among older, stronger, better players, there is no way you can honestly tell me an American kid can develop into a phenom much like the way Adu has. True, he has been developing his game in the US over the past 7 years, only after playing in Ghana for 5. Also, in the US, he played against players his own age. Another thing, watching Adu play soccer against kids his own age, is like watching LeBron James play for his varsity high school team. No one stood a chance. What happened in the olympics though? Nothing. You cannot truly say that Adu will have an impact on the future of US soccer until it comes.

]]> By: ETucker http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5209 ETucker Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:29:19 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5209 Luis- Wikipedia? I bet you altered that yourself :) Find a real source and we'll talk. Plus, how old was he when he moved to the States? 10, 9? When is the critical point in a soccer player's development? How long has he been playing for US soccer teams? He is 16 now, so the last 7 years he's been learning the game in the States. Luis-

Wikipedia? I bet you altered that yourself :)

Find a real source and we’ll talk.

Plus, how old was he when he moved to the States? 10, 9?

When is the critical point in a soccer player’s development? How long has he been playing for US soccer teams?

He is 16 now, so the last 7 years he’s been learning the game in the States.

]]> By: ETucker http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5207 ETucker Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:14:12 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5207 Steve- good point about Bruce needing to vary the attack. I would really liked to see the US try a 4-4-2 or even a 4-3-3 formation. however, do we really have the personell to do it? the problem with teh US is our best centermid is 4 years too old. I think we could do a 4-4-2 (with Donovan at the top of the diamond and Mastro at the back). Charlie Chan- good point about Bruce favoring veterans past their prime. Pope was cleary outmuscled for that first goal. Maybe Conrad should have gotten the start against CR. the ideal coach is like the ideal forward: absolutely ruthless. we may need a foreign coach to come in and objectvely analyze the players from top to bottom. Steve-

good point about Bruce needing to vary the attack. I would really liked to see the US try a 4-4-2 or even a 4-3-3 formation.

however, do we really have the personell to do it? the problem with teh US is our best centermid is 4 years too old. I think we could do a 4-4-2 (with Donovan at the top of the diamond and Mastro at the back).

Charlie Chan-

good point about Bruce favoring veterans past their prime. Pope was cleary outmuscled for that first goal. Maybe Conrad should have gotten the start against CR.

the ideal coach is like the ideal forward: absolutely ruthless. we may need a foreign coach to come in and objectvely analyze the players from top to bottom.

]]> By: Charlie Chan http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5097 Charlie Chan Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:49:02 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5097 I think that one comparison that can be made between this team and the flop of '98 was that we went with some "proven" (read: old) personell instead of giving some fresh, hungry newcomers playing time. One example is how Eddie Pope was beaten pillar to post by both the Czechs and Italians, but Jimmy Conrad stepped up big time. All of the above mentioned guys have done a lot to get us here, and deserve lots of credit for their efforts. But, alas, their time is passed and it's time for some fresh new faces to emerge and continue the US's progress. I think that one comparison that can be made between this team and the flop of ‘98 was that we went with some “proven” (read: old) personell instead of giving some fresh, hungry newcomers playing time. One example is how Eddie Pope was beaten pillar to post by both the Czechs and Italians, but Jimmy Conrad stepped up big time. All of the above mentioned guys have done a lot to get us here, and deserve lots of credit for their efforts. But, alas, their time is passed and it’s time for some fresh new faces to emerge and continue the US’s progress.

]]> By: Steve http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5074 Steve Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:53:25 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5074 The strategy for the U.S. offensive attack was the biggest failure. If there was a strategy. All three games, it seemed like there was no change in trying to attack. All the guys upfront did not seem to know what to do, and never connected. Arena is not an offensive coach. The team did nothing to fix the problem, no adjustments at half time, no change between games. Same ol same ol. The talent was there. Donovan is probably one of the best passers and set up men, and his goals either come from break aways (tough to do at world cup level) or give and go pass backs. But he had no where to go when he had the ball and never once dis a ball come back to him on a give and go. Beasly, McBride, and others were never in position for through balls, and they never worked a give and go. This was the difference between what worked in 2002 and what failed in 2006. The strategy seemed to be get the ball to a player and go one on one. There is no US player talented and fast and strong enough to go one on one with any defense. Lack of or not changing an attack strategy and for that Arena needs to bring on some coaching assistance. He can not go another 4 years and not come up with a team that can attempt several attack strategies so he can adjust based on opponents strengths. This is why South American Teams are so strong, they can adjust. Need to bring in a South American coach to help Arena on offense or take his place. The strategy for the U.S. offensive attack was the biggest failure. If there was a strategy. All three games, it seemed like there was no change in trying to attack. All the guys upfront did not seem to know what to do, and never connected. Arena is not an offensive coach. The team did nothing to fix the problem, no adjustments at half time, no change between games. Same ol same ol. The talent was there. Donovan is probably one of the best passers and set up men, and his goals either come from break aways (tough to do at world cup level) or give and go pass backs. But he had no where to go when he had the ball and never once dis a ball come back to him on a give and go. Beasly, McBride, and others were never in position for through balls, and they never worked a give and go. This was the difference between what worked in 2002 and what failed in 2006. The strategy seemed to be get the ball to a player and go one on one. There is no US player talented and fast and strong enough to go one on one with any defense. Lack of or not changing an attack strategy and for that Arena needs to bring on some coaching assistance. He can not go another 4 years and not come up with a team that can attempt several attack strategies so he can adjust based on opponents strengths. This is why South American Teams are so strong, they can adjust. Need to bring in a South American coach to help Arena on offense or take his place.

]]> By: pete rosam http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5062 pete rosam Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:36:28 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5062 When it comes to the quality of officiating World Cup matches, FIFA is in dire need to get its act together in the selection of referees. In the majority of matches to date, referees hung out their cards as if they were burning a hole in their pockets. Play was frequently stopped for totally clean tackles (as demonstrated in TV replays) and often because players who had tripped over the ball or the opponents' legs sold their phony acts of pain to some of the most hapless refs. As for the U.S. team whose only bright spot was the performance of the keeper, the World Cup event was and still is way over its head, and its total lack of scoring punch sent it home early. Coach Arenas must accept most of the blame for failure to properly prepare the team given the advance knowledge of the tough group it was facing in the first round. No excuses! When it comes to the quality of officiating World Cup matches, FIFA is in dire need to get its act together in the selection of referees. In the majority of matches to date, referees hung out their cards as if they were burning a hole in their pockets. Play was frequently stopped for totally clean tackles (as demonstrated in TV replays) and often because players who had tripped over the ball or the opponents’ legs sold their phony acts of pain to some of the most hapless refs.

As for the U.S. team whose only bright spot was the performance of the keeper, the World Cup event was and still is way over its head, and its total lack of scoring punch sent it home early. Coach Arenas must accept most of the blame for failure to properly prepare the team given the advance knowledge of the tough group it was facing in the first round. No excuses!

]]> By: cougar77 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html/comment-page-2#comment-5051 cougar77 Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:46:28 +0000 http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/end-of-an-era.html#comment-5051 Caroline | June 22nd, 2006 at 9:58 pm Prior to World Cup ‘06, Bruce Arena commented that Australia was the weak link of the 32 teams, an ‘easy’ team to beat. Well, Australia is through to the next round and the US isn’t. Have a nice flight home, Bruce. By his statements above, I guess you can see it in Bruce's attitude were the team was head in this years world cup. Very arrogant PR**K!!! Its time to leave Bruce and his Lovely 4-5-1. Bruce you need to attack. Think of taking some teching courses in europe. Klinsmann come save USA national team. Caroline | June 22nd, 2006 at 9:58 pm

Prior to World Cup ‘06, Bruce Arena commented that Australia was the weak link of the 32 teams, an ‘easy’ team to beat. Well, Australia is through to the next round and the US isn’t. Have a nice flight home, Bruce.

By his statements above, I guess you can see it in Bruce’s attitude were the team was head in this years world cup. Very arrogant PR**K!!! Its time to leave Bruce and his Lovely 4-5-1. Bruce you need to attack. Think of taking some teching courses in europe. Klinsmann come save USA national team.

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