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Should Bruce Stay Or Should Bruce Go?

June 22nd, 2006 | By: Daryl | 146 Comments »

Will US Soccer want Arena to stay?

Possibly not. Fingers will be pointed at Arena tactically and preparation wise, especially after the Czech game. Key players like Keller, Pope, Reyna and McBride are all around international retirement age and it may be that a new era demands a new boss. On the other hand USSF president Sunil Gulati is pretty tight with Arena.

Will Arena want to stay?

More likely is that Arena will feel it’s time to go. Four years is a long time to wait for a chance at redemption in South Africa, and
Arena may not have the enthusiasm to go that long. He won’t want to be unemployed, but if Il Bruce gets a decent job offer either internationally or at club level, he may take it.

Will the players want Bruce to stay?

Hard to say. Seems certain players like Donovan are very pro-Bruce, but he definitely ruffled DMB’s feathers this tournament, while certain influential players like McBride may have become frustrated with the fairly negative tactics.

Will the media want Arena to stay?

Arena’s lucky in that he won’t face huge pressure from the US media, basically because they don’t care.

Will US soccer fans want Arena to stay?

I’m guessing not. There’s been a noticeable anti-Arena sentiment for a while, both in comments on this blog and elsewhere, and that will probably intensify now.


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Username By Tom | June 24th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
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Bruce needs a change & so does the US Team; 8 years is long enuf! How about Klinsmann for that job? Lives in the US, American wife & kids…Knows how to coach & evaluate talent, been to the mountain as player & coach. Likes America!!!!

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Username By milad | June 24th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
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bruce needs to go man, i think he’s the blame for everything that went wrong with the U.S team. u.s soccer will never be a strong as other countries outthere yaddda mean man. the u.s heart is not into soccer, it’s into baseball,basketball and american football.

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Username By Drew McFrizz | June 24th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
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Who decided to hire Taylor Negron’s fat brother to coach the national team in the first place?

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Username By Charlie Chan | June 24th, 2006 at 11:38 pm
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USSF president Sunil Gulati said it best, in that three unfavorable results don’t suddenly diminish all of the things Arena has done in his coaching career. That being said, I think the US has gone as far as Arena can lead them, and it is time for a higher profile manager to take us to the next level. I think that the USSF needs to put a big offer out to someone like Klinsman (who already lives in the USA) or perhaps someone like Sven Goren Eriksson, who is tired of living in the fishbowl that is the English tabloid media and would probably relish the chance to manage without his every single move (personally and professionally) being scrutinized to death.

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Username By Bill | June 25th, 2006 at 12:30 am
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We will see how well Arena is respected as a coach after his departure from US Soccer.
We have heard of his “opportunity” in Europe which is “no longer available”.
Let’s see what happens and who offers him a position…..

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Username By Danny | June 25th, 2006 at 1:15 am
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Arena should be offically repremanded for not showing good sportsmanship after the game. Millions of children that we stress sportmanship above everything else and even a man at the highest level can’t show it.
US Soccer will never be consistently at the top until it is viewed and becomes a passion for the children. Look at the other countries and you will see what I mean. Always playing soccer and the price is inexpensive for good coaching. GHANA made it a national holiday when they played the US. Will that ever happen here?

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Username By Jo Jo | June 25th, 2006 at 6:36 am
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Just for playing Reyna, Arena should go. It was obvious all the way through qualifications that the US played better without Reyna. Reyna was the worst player in the tournament. He cost the US all 3 games. He should have never been on team.

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Username By Gerd Mueller's 14th goal | June 25th, 2006 at 2:57 pm
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All those calling for Klinsman as new U.S. trainer should first try to spell his name correctly: Klinsmann. Double ‘N’. That’s his name. He is German. He is not American.

Next point to learn. The US plays soccer. It is a Football World Cup.

To spell Klinsmann’s name correctly seems to me as a first, very much needed step for US-soccer boys if they REALLY want to entry in the world of football men (*smile*): overcoming soccer island selfcentrism in the US and discover the real thing in it’s own right. Try to give up FIFA-ranked-us-No.4-superpower-arrogance in order to learn from respected and successful football nations: that means first and foremost England, Spain and Italy, with their wonderful football culture, second the rising nations of 1980ies, e.g. Nigeria, Ghana and Ivory Coast (that have now top players at top clubs, eg. Essien and Drogba at Chelsea), and last but not least from now the now much respected latecomers Japan and Korea. Sorry, but the U.S. is not among these so far, if you ask a European Continental football freak having had many discussions about the U.S. with international folks in the last days.

ETucker: Nobody needs to pay the Mexican sons and daughters to play football. Everything is needed is to stop their exclusion from clubs in the U.S., practiced by white middle-class suburban soccer mommies who fear their children could play with the childrens of their gardeners. Have a look at the French teams of the last year. At present only the goalie Barthez and the right defender Sagnol are “white”, and the French have learned to like it.

In my eyes (but maybe I am wrong) the discussion here remains constantly in a somewhat middle class-universe: “Let us pay these worker’s and minorities’ kids to play for our team, so we will reach the status in the world of football, as Microsoft and Apple products will have in the world of computing.” The wrong way to success. Learn to understand how football works, is my advice.

I am a bit emotional maybe, because recently I had a contact to a US Soccer-manager and really was shocked by his ignorance and arrogance. Okay, not everybody is like him, that shows the dicussion, but… it explains a lot.

Am I totally wrong? (I mean my arguments, not my English…)

We would love to see an U.S.-team, that combines the skills of South America with the fitness of NBA and NHL and the heart of American pioneers. Think about Zico as new trainer

Hope to see you in the Final 2014 Germany - US, Klinsmann vs Zico.

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Username By malik | June 25th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
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LOL JOE!! GOOD ONE…LOL

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Username By ETucker | June 25th, 2006 at 11:20 pm
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Jo jo: did you see the game where the US qualified against Mexico? Claudio Reyna was easily the best player on the pitch and has been for the past decade for the US.

It is easy to criticize and tougher to offer a solution: who do we put on the pitch instead of Claudio Reyna? Give me a name, anyone (from the roster or any US player currently alive) Tab Ramos? :)

I could envision a 4-4-2 with Dempsey and Convey on the wings and Donovan and Mastro in the middle, but I’m not sure Donovan would be an improvement.

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Username By Patrick Lockyer | June 26th, 2006 at 2:20 am
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See the passion of the Portugal V Holland game to understand where Gerd Mueller is coming from. That was hard and disputably fair but what a match. How can you get that passion from the US?

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Username By Earl | June 26th, 2006 at 4:10 am
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Bruce Arena should be removed. The United States has the ability to accumulate enough world class talent to compete on the only soccer stage that matters. No one cares about the friendlies record. No one cares how many times they qualify by going 5-0-0 at home, but going .500 at 2-2-1 on the road.

We care that the went winless in yet another World Cup. We care that they put up 1 shot on goal vs the Czechs and Italians COMBINED! That’s laughingstock material. The entire world threw us the shake of a head and a knowing nod that says “you Yanks have no business here.”. A subpar offensive effort against Ghana just seals Bruce Arena’s fate as much as it sealed the fate of US soccer until 2010. The world gets to laugh it up for four more years.

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Username By Gerd Mueller's 14th goal | June 26th, 2006 at 10:35 am
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Think realistic. The US cant get any other than Bruce Arena. No European oder Brazilian would risk his name as the trainer of USA loosing in the CONCACAF-qualification group against Mururuoa atoll, Virgin Islands and Costa Rica.

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Username By Gerd Mueller's 14th goal | June 26th, 2006 at 10:39 am
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ETucker, you want to hear a name. Here is it: Mia Hamm.

She is a respected player around the world. Can’t say that of the US boys and their whining supporters.

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Username By Gerd Mueller's 14th goal | June 26th, 2006 at 10:41 am
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fuck you, administrator

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Username By Gerd Mueller's 14th goal | June 26th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
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can someone delete that, please? *hustle*

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Username By SammyT | June 26th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
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I agree that we need new coaching, preferably from a top European coach, but that only solves one problem. We need kids to be taught the fundamentals, discipline, dedication and creativity from a young age. The world has caught up to the US in baskeball and baseball not by hiring NBA coaches, but by taking a systematic approach to youth training and development. Arena was right, we nee coaching from the bottom up, not the top down. Getting some big name German coach may improve World Cup tactics and polish our most creative players (Twellman, why wasn’t he on the squad?), but it won’t create the game-changing Ninja strikers or Buddhic all-seeing midfielders we’ve never had.

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Username By ETucker | June 26th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
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dont feed the trolls.

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Username By player | June 27th, 2006 at 12:01 am
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Arena needs to go. He’s the epitome of everything that’s wrong with soccer in the US right now — like most of the people in charge of youth leagues and ODP in this country, he’s a man with very little soccer experience of his own pretending he knows what he’s doing. Telling his players they should play for a possible “make-up” call in the Ghana game? Maybe he should have been coming up with a tactic for actually scoring a goal, rather than hoping the ref could do the team’s job for it. And don’t even get me started on his lineup choices. Of course he played Donovan far too much; Donovan is just the kind of player who is rewarded in the US system. He’s also its most typical product — a player too small and weak to make any kind of impact on an international stage. It’s time the US learned how to recognize soccer talent and develop it properly — it takes more than flash and dash to play well. A player can have the best footwork and juggling skills in the world, but that player is useless if he’s constantly knocked off the ball, too weak to really challenge for possession on the ground, and too tiny to have any impact in the air. I still can’t believe how many ODP clinics I’ve seen where countless hours are spent on silly juggling drills, or going one-on-one against an orange cone. Wake up America! It’s a game, and you’ll never win it if you don’t play it.

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Username By ETucker | June 27th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
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Guys-

Donovan wasn’t too weak and small in Japan/Korea 2002. Neither was Beasley.

You don’t have to be a Jan Koller to be successful at the top level…Michael Owen and Leo Messi are not exactly bohemiths.

Bruce does need to go, but give him his due: he inherited a program in the dumps (France 98, Wynalda) and made it respectable.

If not for some silly PLAYER mistakes, like Mastro two foot tackling an Italian from behind for no reason, or Bocanegra clearing a ball into the box, we could’ve been in the knockout rounds.

Until US players take it to the next level (and play error free soccer), we could have a coaching team of Parreira, Scolari, and Klinsmann and we still wouldn’t get out of a group of death.

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Username By rad|x | June 28th, 2006 at 7:07 am
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I don’t honestly think getting a new coach will help the US situation. Not in this life. First of all you need to breed a decent domestic league, with decent players (not export fubar material like Abu, it doesn’t work, usually a one time thing, but hey, so much to talk about). You have some decent players playing abroad, but that’s not enough. International teams do not appear out of nowhere. They must have a basis.

Another bad thing is that you usually have weak qualification groups. Blah it’s only Mexico that proves to be a challenge usually, isn’t it..

Fifa really needs to change the qualification system for the World Cup, instead of regional go global… this would certainly improve situation, and would certainly reduce chances of weak countries getting into the final stage.

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Username By rad|x | June 28th, 2006 at 6:13 pm
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The reason why I typed the last sentence was the following.

If you were say an average european country, which usually has to go through hell to get to the WC. You would just appreciate being there. And you should. US is not a spectacular team, but at least you have more or less free ticket every 4 years to the WC. Use that to your advantage. Popularize soccer. Invest in youth teams. It absolutely has nothing to do with coach.

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Username By John | July 8th, 2006 at 6:58 am
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If you ask me, I believe that the U. S. should clean house in their organization, and RIGHT NOW!

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Username By John | July 8th, 2006 at 7:17 am
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The rumors about Jurgen Klinsmann coming to coach Team USA, are not just that. Jurgen Klinsmann is the obvious choice to coach our team, and it is something that we, Americans, have been voicing our opinions about ever since that pathetic loss to Ghana. And why not, he lives in Southern California with his Wife and children. Someone of his magnitude living here in the United States, makes it totally essential for us to obtain. We have to get him, at any cost, and, we have to give him the complete reins of the Team. Bring in his own Assistant Coaches and Scouts, or it’s not going to work. Jurgen’s contract with Germany ends after the World Cup Tournament, meaning that his experience, along with his work ethic and motivation is just what USA Soccer needs right now. We can get him, but, will the U. S. Soccer Federation go that extra step to bring him? That’s another question left answering. For all we know, we could bring ourselves another loser like Steve Sampson(What a Jerk he was). But, I must tell you, if we DO NOT get Jurgen Klinsmann to coach U. S. Soccer, then it goes to show how committed our Federation is to our program. And we can just continue to be laughed at by the rest of the World by our constant Last place finishes in the World Cup, slapping the Faces of every Soccer Mom in America who does take their children to their practices, and later, their games. USSF, the ball is now in your half of the field, how are you going to handle this?

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Username By nicko | July 8th, 2006 at 8:01 am
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there are eery similarities between this bog and english blogs reviewing Sven’s performance…

I would say Arena has done US soccer a world of good, but probably you should find someone new just because 8 years is a long time to coach a single team and having a coach with man-boobs must unsettle the players.

as for US soccer, I think the main thing is to find a way to play more high standard games, probably getting an invite to the copa-americana is the best way to do it,

oh and imitate Italian and German soccer as much as you want, but do not under all circumstances imitate english or spanish soccer!!! (just look at their records to find out why!)

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